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Tuyaux pour ecrire un CV Australien

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  • #73118
    Kate09
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    Tuyaux pour Resume OZ
    Since it’s a topical subject at the moment…thought the following might be useful.
    (note: my incorrect punctuation is due to not being able to use ANY accents on my keyboard, ni avec ALT + 😕 )

    Cette info est donne pas pour un guide a ecrire un resume, mais pour MODIFIER un CV qui existe deja – avec le marche Australian en tete –tuyaux a propos de ce que les employers cherchent, et des exemples de comment cvs et lettres de motivation sont fait en australie/ formatted.

    J’ai choisi un des plus acceptables/common styles/genres.

    Sommaire des tuyaux pour etre presentes:

    * Ajouter quelques « special extras » a votre categorie « interets » pour la situation Australian.
    * Resume grammar & orthographe, meme capitalisation de nouns/noms. Tres important. Si tu fais plus qu’une erreur ou deux – then it won’t matter that you’re French and English is only your 2nd language. Ton email ou letter va certainement finir dans la poubelle.

    J’ai vu beaucoup de cas ou les employers peuvent etre severe avec ca et comment peu des applicants arrive jusqu’au niveau de interview stage.
    Just like arriving wearing jeans to an interview for almost all industries would end your job chances before you even sit down, it’s the same end for Aussies and foreigners if your ponctuation et orthographe n’est pas 99% parfait.

    * Toujours verifier, re-verifier et verifier une autre fois ta ponctuation, capitalisation, structure de phrases (particulairement si you’ve gone back and changed a word or two – make sure the change you’ve made hasn’t changed the compatiblity with the rest of the sentence).

    Covering letters: How to make yourself seem more attractive to the prospective Australian employer.
    * Don’t underestimate the power of the ‘likeability’ factor.
    * Even prepare some arguments in the event that you are thought to be over-qualified for certain positions you may apply for. It can and does happen.

    Procedure tips:
    So, assuming your French Resume is already complete and up to date, you now need to go over it with a critical eye et pas juste verifier ta grammaire et l’orthographe, mais aussi regarde pour les ‘traps’ et ‘faux amis’ – les choses qui sont acceptable en francais mais pas en Anglais. (par exemple si on ne mets pas un capital letter au debut d’une date, ce sera lu comme une erreur)

    Donc, a commencer, voici une petite liste recapitulative pour le Resume, on what to look for when searching for errors/correcting mistakes in your work.

    * Read through the whole thing and check for punctuation. Double space apres les points, etc.

    * Check your grammar.

    * Start scanning again for format, starting with your name.
    The format in Australia should always be: commence avec votre prenom & 2eme nom, ET PUIS your last name (NOT surname first).

    Dates: Format should be either, ie May 22, 2004 or 22nd May, 2004.
    Not just 22 May 2004 – doesn’t look quite right.
    Date de naissance format: c’est d’accord 2-05-72, but don’t write abbreviated dates on the Covering Letter.

    Whether you call your Resume a Resume or Curriculum Vitae is up to you. I see many professional & academic ones written as Curriculum Vitae, & other industries (for example hospitality, part time work) as Resume.

    Interests: In Australia, the land of sports players (& plenty of keen sports watches) my husband advises that it’s a good idea to mention your interest or participation in a particular team sport (even if you happen to hate sport)
    He says the solid reasoning behind this is that employers are looking for ‘team players’ and they will more easily believe you will fit into a team situation si vous avez joue le sport comme partie d’une equipe.

    #337950
    Kate09
    Membre

    Now here’s a small simple sample example.

    Resume (or Curriculum Vitae)

    Name: i.e., Paul John Brown
    Address, etc.
    Date of Birth:
    Nationality:
    (Marital Status is not essential)

    Phone: XXXX XXX
    Email pjbrown@hotmail.com

    Education Profile
    (include all your education & training, etc, sauf si c’est un petit boulot et vous utilisez un version court de CV)

    Languages: i.e., fluency in English (or fluent English is also correct)
    If you’re NOT fluent in English of course you’re going to be found out, so it’s better to write something like “good grounding in English” or state how many years experience in English or other languages that you have. (At least then you haven’t said you’re perfect ,and reading between the lines they will probably think that your English is a bit better than it is.)

    Employment History – pretty standard. Includes all the full time, part time and casual work you’ve had with the dates/years, etc.

    Extra tip: On my resume I add in an extra category called “Recent activities” – it could be useful for those who may have been doing Work Experience stages, volunteer work, or working on projects which could show how dedicated you are.

    Voluntary Community Activities
    Australia has a huge network of volunteer organisations, and a huge population of people who volunteer their time (especially in the older generation) and for us it’s a very good idea to include what we do in the community, and I guess show that we’re not just interested de juste gagne de l’argent…

    Demonstrated Abilities
    Where you get to tell about what you’re good at.
    I.e., broken down into categories like “Organisational skills” “technical skills” “written and verbal communication skills” “technical skills” and “other skills”

    With your previous jobs/employment, try to make the job titles as gender neutral as possible – i.e., if you have listed jobs which in English only have a male gender, such as ‘delivery man’, change it to ‘delivery person’. Using ‘person’ is so much better, because for many years now, it has been illegal in Australia to advertise for one gender over another, and all the language must be completely non-sexist, so the practice of ‘deliveryman, postman, odd jobs man, handyman’ – anything like that, has been totally forbidden in newspaper job advertising.
    Using no gender words could tell your prospective employer that you understand our ‘Equal Opportunity Act’ laws.

    Driver’s Licence: Car (or whatever)
    If your Driver’s Licence is without convictions/penalties, don’t write ‘clean driving licence’ (which means nothing to us) but rather ‘excellent driving record’ (ou quelquechose comme ca)

    One of the last items usually is the ‘Hobbies and Interests’ (or ‘Interests and Activities’ which is probably fairly standard too).
    If you have any bizarre ones in there, (like collecting really weird things….)
    I’d recommend removing them.
    Remove any as well that might go against the rest of the image of yourself that you’ve worked to present in your covering letter and CV – i.e., a computer professional would be best removing any and all references to computer games, which also could lower the appearance of maturity level.
    You could add in some team sport interests, for extra effect. Maybe leave out any sports you might have listed (unless you actually play in a team) that aren’t played much in Australia and which Aussies (at work at least) wouldn’t really care for, like Soccer (in Vic, that is but NSW is ok for that & rugby) , basketball, handball, softball, baseball – if you can’t gamble on it, it’s not quite so interesting to an Aussie in a work situation). Try to show an interest in Cricket, Aussie Rules Football and horse racing.
    Familiar sports like motor racing and tennis will fit in well too.

    SPORTS:
    When writing about the sports you play, the verb endings are not always the same: par exemple:
    Surfing, Kite Surfing, Wind Surfing, sky diving, cycling, hiking (the word Treking isn’t used much here, if at all) swimming, boating, snorkelling, diving, caving, fishing, canoeing, kayaking, jogging, running, racing, Horse Racing, Orienteering, Cricket, Gymnastics, Baseball, Football (don’t fall into the trap of writing ‘footing’!)
    Another major exception to the rule is Golf (people don’t say they’re going ‘golfing’ – it’s ‘to play golf’.

    Pour quelqu’un qui voudrait travailler a Melbourne (ou ailleurs dans le Victoria) I wonder if you could have any idea before you arrive, how important (et tres utile!) a liking for Aussie Rules Football could be! (The rivalry and gambling that goes on in offices between supporters of rival teams when it comes to Footy Tipping seems to them to be very essential to the ‘work life’, so at least show an understanding or initial interest in the game, if you can’t manage to present the image of a total fan!)

    #337951
    Kate09
    Membre

    Covering letter:

    You can address it to The Personnel Manager and then as Dear Sir/Madam (unless you know the name or sex of the Personnel Manager or Officer).
    In Australia, this is just about the only time you will ever use the more formal ‘Sir/Madam’ title. It’s rarely used in speaking, and most people start off immediately on a first name basis with their boss (unless he/she is in a position of great power and 40 years older than you, but in most cases it won’t happen. It’s not so formal any more, once you pass the ‘official letters’ point.)

    Lorsque ton lettre sera fini, retour au debut et prepare de le lire avec beaucoup de soin.
    * Verifier le ponctuation. Use a double space after full stops, etc.
    * Verifier ta grammaire. If you decide to change words in a sentence, check to see that the other words in the sentence still agree. It’s likely you may need to make adjustments to other words as well in that sentence.
    * Verifier, re-verifier et meme verifier un 3ier fois pour capitalisation throughout the covering letter. This is just as important as the grammar, and will definitely affect the overall ‘look’ et niveau de qualite de ton CV et lettre.

    * You need to be watching again for French/English traps.

    Just as we Aussies get confused when we see dates and days of the week written in French without initial capitals, and feel like it is a mistake we’re looking at, you need to concentrate on the reverse.
    All proper nouns in English must start with a capital letter.
    You must also be consistent all the way through, as if you fix some of the proper nouns but miss others, it will look even more wrong. If you have doubts, it’s better to use a capital rather than leave it un-capitalised (within reason – don’t go crazy and capitalise almost everything)

    With your resume and covering letter, this capitalisation relates to things like:
    days of the week, months of the year,
    titles of people, job titles, degree titles/names, university and school names, names of countries, souvent les noms de langages aussi.

    Nouns
    Some examples of words which should be capitalised: English, French, Engineering, Engineer,
    University. Names of sports – general sports like swimming aren’t important, but specific ones like Rugby, Football, etc I would capitalise. Some interests which are nouns or a science will also be written with an initial capital – i.e., Astronomy, Photography, Web Design (or Web Development)

    Other possible traps:

    Dates
    Years should be written in the following format: 1 year, 1 1/2 years, 2 years. 1 month, 2 months, 2 1/2 months.
    ‘Computer software’ is always singular (no such thing as softwares or hardwares even if there are several. If there is more than one, you could write something like “several software programmes” and when listing the specific names of them, capitalise the first letters.

    #337952
    Kate09
    Membre

    Extra tips for the covering letter:

    Likeability factor: So, you’ve written your covering letter, but how do you maintain some formality yet still try to come across as approachable and likeable at the same time? I really think it’s an advantage if you can do this, because of the social nature of so many Australian companies at work as well as play.
    How you do it is up to you – you should have an advantage here – I guess French aren’t known all over the world as charming for nothing! Another advantage for you is that I believe Australian workers still often have a very difficult time trying to ‘sell themselves’ and their good qualities to an unknown outsider, fearing that they may semble un peu ‘vaniteux’ if they talk about their own good qualities.
    You want to convey a pleasant manner, quelqu’un aux talents varies, et qui ‘fits in’ well with everyone, and has some interests that they may have (take hints from the type of business you’re targeting)

    I once thought the likeability factor didn’t have that much to do with getting a job, until I really saw it functioning.

    Ok, you’re on site, have applied for a job, and you’re up against the other employees.
    Sans doute, tout les gens qui arrive a l’entrevue will have been determined by the employer as having the qualifications and ability to do the job.
    Donc, qui est la gagneur/euse?

    Dans les scenarios que j’ai vu, it goes to the one who the boss finds some kind of ‘parente’ or good feeling with, or who the bos/ses determine would ‘fit in well’ with the others in the department, in a team environment.

    You might not think this is important, but a lot of workplaces socialise regularly – drinks after work, BBQs, Xmas parties, and fitting in with these things are also seen as very important to the work life.

    #337953
    Kate09
    Membre

    L’entrevue:

    Ok, so from what you have seen so far, Australians are less formal when it comes to titles, MAIS, c’est pas le meme chose l’orsqu’on arrive au entrevue. When dressing for interviews, you will still need to look your formal best, pour presque chaque occupation. (Et pour les hommes, on doit presque toujours porte un cravate au entrevue)

    Aussi pour les hommes:
    If it’s a professional job, portez pour exemple les chaussures noirs, Long sleeved blanc (or very pale chemise if you haven’t got a business-like blanc one, but only as a last resort, car je crois qu’un blanc serait vraiment le mieux)
    You would really look out of place at most interviews if you have the nice chemise, mas pas d’une cravate. Make sure it’s a quite plain one though, of course (nothing too bright that will attract attention, and especially not cartoon character ones as you see some Aussies wearing – that’s only for after they’ve got the job)

    Dark suit style trousers are what the Australian etiquette books strongly recommend.

    And unless it’s really tropical weather, you should wear the jacket too, even if you take it off during the interview.

    The books also say that the long sleeved chemise should stay, even if the weather is quite warm (they also say you can push your sleeves up a bit during the interview if this is the case, and this should send good signals to your future boss that you are ready to get down to work (one of those body language things – but they insist it works and my husband has tried it & says it works).

    Pour les femmes: I think women can be a little more casual, and use more colour.
    It used to be that dresses and straight skirts in plain colours (or slightly pin striped) were for women, and trousers were ‘out’, but now it’s quite different et on a le choix.
    The idea is to look businesslike (especially for an executive job) but still retain some femininity.
    For less executive and formal jobs:
    Still dress fairly formally, but a bit more colour and style is allowable (depends on the job).
    In all cases, denim is definitely always out, and especially jeans (I’ve seen people fail the interview as soon as they walk in the door because they were wearing denim).

    For some interviews in Australia, the employer will just try to make the interview fairly informal, and ask casual and friendly questions to try and break the ice first (but still underneath it all asking all the usual questions and trying to work out if you are ‘the one’ so you shouldn’t let them put you too at ease).
    Other interviewers will be more formal right from the start, and some interviews may have several people on a kind of judging panel, with all of them having their chance to ask questions..
    Then, first impressions really do count for so much, as you must try to make a good impression on all of them, as they’ll probably cast a vote between them after the interviews are finished, and the candidate with the majority votes, wins.

    Further sources of information to help write covering letters, and some sample CV’s:
    There is some more good advice on this job site which you could find helpful.

    http://www.jobsguide.com.au/body.asp?region=goldfields&template=home

    Bonne chance!
    Kate

    PS: Si quelqu’un a encore besoin d’aide avec leur CVs/Resume, je suis disponible.
    Il y a quelques ans, j’etais comme une correctrice professionnel.

    Il y aurait juste un ou deux conditions:

    1: To save a lot of time, d’abord, you would have to get the CV a un niveau de quality raisonnable, en suivant les tuyaux.
    2: Le service serait gratuit, mais si c’est un longue travail, je peux demande qu’on me donner quelque chose en echange: un carte postale francais ou un autre petit chose comme je collectionner mais je ne peut pas les trouver en Australie

    #337954
    UnjourenOz
    Membre

    Merci !!! C’est très intéressant d’avoir le point de vue d’une Australienne !

    Tu insistes beaucoup sur la ponctuation, ça serait possible que tu nous rappelles les différentes règles en vigueur en Australie … c’est les mêmes que pour le Royaume-Uni ?

    Samuel

    #337955
    agora7
    Participant

    thanks miss Kate

    :inlove: :cartonne :10

    #337956
    cecile
    Participant

    Well, Kate, you are a real gem 🙂
    Thanks a lot for all your very helpfull info.

    A Fan XXX 🙂

    #337957
    Kate09
    Membre
    UnjourenOz wrote:
    Merci !!! C’est très intéressant d’avoir le point de vue d’une Australienne !

    You’re all welcome 😀

    unjourenOz wrote:
    Tu insistes beaucoup sur la ponctuation, ça serait possible que tu nous rappelles les différentes règles en vigueur en Australie … c’est les mêmes que pour le Royaume-Uni ?
    Samuel

    Desolee, je ne peux pas lire tout les choses en francais, et je ne suis pas certain de ta question…. just guessing, I’m wondering if you’re asking me to tell you more about punctuation rules in Oz? If so, je peux faire ca un peu plus la prochaine fois.
    Je crois que il y a des points en commun avec un CV fait en Oz et un en Royaume-Uni, mais je pense aussi que il y a assez nombreux des differences. (Ces jours, on utilise l’orthographe pour certains mots plus comme USA qu’angleterre avant – par exemple ‘color’ et non plus ‘colour’, et ‘labor’ et pas ‘labour’ )

    Kate

    #337958
    vodler
    Membre

    Hi Kate !!!

    Je te remercie pour toutes ces informations, c’est très gentil de ta part.
    Merci beaucoup !!

    PS: funny that you live in Ballarat ^^ I have been there one time 🙂

    #337959

    Merci beaucoup Kate ! 😉

    Je place de suite tes messages dans mes favoris !

    Thanks ! 😀

    😮 BG 😮

    #337960
    kykyboss
    Membre

    merci beaucoup kate

    #337961
    Kate09
    Membre
    vodler wrote:
    Hi Kate !!!

    Je te remercie pour toutes ces informations, c’est très gentil de ta part.

    PS: funny that you live in Ballarat ^^ I have been there on time 🙂

    Salut Vodler,
    Je t’en prie.
    Hey, c’est cool que tu as visite ma cite – et il y a meme beaucoup de soleil 😛
    (car les gens de Melbourne dit a nous tout le temps que c’est froid ici 😮 )

    Kate

    #337962
    Kate09
    Membre

    Voici une site interessant que je pense pourrais vous aidez….

    http://www.moveandstay.com.au/melbourne/guide_doingbusiness.asp

    Il y a un guide pour ‘faire le business’ a Melbourne (utile aussi pour les entrevues) et je crois que c’est utile pour les autre cites d’Oz aussi.

    Il y a les tuyaux pour:
    Etiquette, how to dress when doing business, how to greet people, des noms des plus grands companies a Melbourne, etc

    Il y a aussi beaucoup des infos a propos de Melbourne (sport, touristique, aeroport, embassies, liste de toutes d’ecoles dans Victoria, carte de chemin de fer, etc)

    Kate

    #337963
    Marylaure
    Membre

    Hi Kate!

    I needed to review my English resume and your help is priceless!!! Thank you so much to share all these little tips !

    Happy New Year !

    Ps: Do you still have time to read resume? Im living in Melbourne so I cant find you any French collectable things but i wanted to make a galette des rois one of these days so if your interested with others it could be great or really awful depending on my cooking abilities for this 1rst try !

    #337964
    Neon Bird
    Membre

    Merci infiniment Kate !! Tes conseils sont fortement utiles !!

    #337965
    MISSVAN70
    Membre

    A mon tour de te remercier Kate!!

    Contente de trouver ce topic au moment ou je dois rediger ma  » cover letter « 

    Claire

    #337966
    Kikeo
    Membre

    Merci pour cet excellent sujet et ces précieux conseils !!

    #337967
    Kate09
    Membre

    De rien 🙂

    Je suis tres contente de voir que cette post est encore utile.

    Bonne chance – et bon boulot – en Australie a vous tous.

    Kate

    #337968
    ALIENNISTA
    Participant

    Thanks a lot Kate!! 😀 very usefull post indeed!!
    It should be on the top of the list everytime.

    #337969
    offmax
    Membre

    un ptit up

    #337970
    Lizzie
    Membre

    Hi Kate!

    Can you help me, if i get you my resume by mail? I go to Australia on november 2009 and i’m preparing lots of documents before!
    thanks for you answer! 😀

    #337971
    Christelleoz
    Participant

    Thank you very much for all these advices.

    I have done a resume and cover letter because i plan to come to oz next year or before if i can find a company who could sponsorise me.

    Could you please give me you email address please? I would like you to correct my resume and cover letter.

    Thank you again!

    Christelle 😀

    #337972
    drup_2015
    Membre
    #337973
    Christelleoz
    Participant

    merci pour ce lien.

    Je vois que tu as été sponsorisé! Dans quel domine es tu?

    D’apres dois je profiter du WHV pour venir chercher une entreprise qui puisse me sponsoriser sur place? Est-ce possible?

    Merci,

    Christelle

    #337974
    drup_2015
    Membre
    Christelleoz wrote:
    merci pour ce lien.

    Je vois que tu as été sponsorisé! Dans quel domine es tu?

    D’apres dois je profiter du WHV pour venir chercher une entreprise qui puisse me sponsoriser sur place? Est-ce possible?

    Merci,

    Christelle

    Oui vient en WHV d’abord, tu auras plus de chance de trouver comme ça. Par contre ça risque de prendre du temps il faut le savoir.

    C’est ce que j’ai fait. Mais j’ai aussi eu la chance de trouver un job qui nécessite d’être français. Je suis Liaison Officer dans un cabinet d’avocat francophone.

    Autre lien http://www.englishcvmodel.com/cv_anglais_australie.htm

    #337975
    Christelleoz
    Participant

    Sachant que quand je cherche c’est au moins 7 h par jour et en porte à porte. Le porte à porte est-ce apprécié justement? Quand tu dis longtemps c’est quoi?

    Et ton entreprise par contre n’embauche plus? Ou bien aurais je la chance de trouver un poste comme le tient si je postule dans des cabinets d’avocats?

    Merci

    #337976
    drup_2015
    Membre
    Christelleoz wrote:
    Sachant que quand je cherche c’est au moins 7 h par jour et en porte à porte. Le porte à porte est-ce apprécié justement? Quand tu dis longtemps c’est quoi?

    Et ton entreprise par contre n’embauche plus? Ou bien aurais je la chance de trouver un poste comme le tient si je postule dans des cabinets d’avocats?

    Merci

    2 mois. Et j’ai eu de la chance et c’était avant la crise.

    Non on n’embauche pas. C’est une petite boite. 😉

    Tu peux tenter dans les cabinets d’avocats, faut tenter sa chance partout. On ne sait jamais. Mais comme je l’ai dit, j’ai eu la chance de trouver dans un cabinet d’avocat francophone et c’est pour ça que j’ai eu le sponsorship. Je ne l’aurais pas eu dans le cas contraire.

    #337977
    JuliaR
    Membre

    Thanks kate for your mail,

    J´ai bien lu tes emails, mais meme s´ils sont tres bien faits, je n´arrive pas à me faire une idee de comment est la presentation sur une feuille, pourrais-tu stp me donner un example de CV sur feuille, do you understand what I mean?

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